This legendary battle between the Bay area's Hieroglyphics and Hobo Junction crews showed up on KMEL back in 1995. This was the result of some bruised ego shit. Saafir was on Casual's album, but for whatever reason Casual didn't appear on Saafir's. The general consensus with this battle is that Casual got served, and it's true, Saafir is the most articulate, but then there's the question of whether or not he was spitting pre-written lyrics. I personally just love how spastic the Hiero kids are on the mic. And I think Casual kills it. Listen yourself, and you be the judge.